UT fans what happened to Bryce Brown?

[CP7]

Wyoming, Vanderbilt and UCLA (twice) LMAO:laffingassoff:

[Ironlung]

And yet FSU still loses to a team that UT has beaten every year for almost 3 decades and somehow manages to lose to South Florida and every other bottom feeding dreg in the ACC other than who, Duke? Be glad they weren't playing Wyoming, Vanderbilt, or UCLA (twice). :laffingassoff: They should shut that **** down and turn it back into a girls college. Maybe there'd be less free shoes and academic scandals. As much as UT has sucked over the last half decade at least every once in a while they'll show up and be competitive. It's the argument of who has the prettier turd. At least I'm not delusional enough to think that my team still matters in the grand scheme of things.

[Biggin]

Says the FSU fan. For ****'s sake. :laffingassoff:

Agree with Biggin' on UT being able to lose a RB off the roster and not being able to lose someone at LB/OT or several other spots. Disagree with the his last sentence and site Adrian Peterson, Darren Sproles, and Jamal Charles as just three Big 12 backs starting in the NFL right now.

There was an ESPN article I saw copied and pasted today about it not being a sure thing on Brown leaving UT. He's still enrolled at UT and is finishing the semester before he decides anything. I don't think he's staying and I think he's going to K-State. There were rumor's last season about his dad being mad and wanting him home because he'd gotten a girlfriend and found out they were having sex. Now with his brother (whom I'm sure Coeburn Cane now thinks is a first class piece of garbage and the true reason for the holocaust since he left Miami) at K-State, I'm sure Brice will end up there as well.

but thats been a few years ago, now the Big XII has gone all west coast pass happy, making it harder for a RB to really stand out and shine.

Leaving a big time SEC school for a lower tier Big XII school, in a conference where the pass is king, just makes no sense to me in football ideology.

[CoeburnCane]

Now with his brother (whom I'm sure Coeburn Cane now thinks is a first class piece of garbage and the true reason for the holocaust since he left Miami) at K-State, I'm sure Brice will end up there as well.

Not that you cared to ask before you made an assumption--but no. Arthur Jr didn't complain about PT while at Miami. He was a consummate teammate. He always talked about how much he enjoyed his time at Coral Gables and that he was learning a lot. Even Arthur was quoted as saying that he was behind the curve as far as the LB position coming from Kansas to major D1 college football--but to his credit, he always worked hard to improve & learn, and played well on special teams.

What I don't like, is that his pops decided that the best thing to put out there regarding his departure from Miami was that he was having personal problems and he wanted Arthur closer home to the family. The spin job primadona BS is what I can't take, and Arthur seems like the only dude in the family to not be that way.

Two things happened with Arthur that I know of, straight from people I know on campus--his g/f broke up with him, and all signs pointed to him not getting the MLB job in open competition this spring b/c of his lack of knowledge of the defense. Anyone following Miami football pretty closely could tell you the latter of those. If you're his dad, come out and say that b/c that's pretty much the case--no spin job needed. I can respect the truth. I don't like this BS his dad put out about "personal problems" and wanting Arthur closer to home to somehow soften the blow in the media or whatever.

[1inStripes]

Not that you cared to ask before you made an assumption--but no. Arthur Jr didn't complain about PT while at Miami. He was a consummate teammate. He always talked about how much he enjoyed his time at Coral Gables and that he was learning a lot. Even Arthur was quoted as saying that he was behind the curve as far as the LB position coming from Kansas to major D1 college football--but to his credit, he always worked hard to improve & learn, and played well on special teams.

What I don't like, is that his pops decided that the best thing to put out there regarding his departure from Miami was that he was having personal problems and he wanted Arthur closer home to the family. The spin job primadona BS is what I can't take, and Arthur seems like the only dude in the family to not be that way.

Two things happened with Arthur that I know of, straight from people I know on campus--his g/f broke up with him, and all signs pointed to him not getting the MLB job in open competition this spring b/c of his lack of knowledge of the defense. Anyone following Miami football pretty closely could tell you the latter of those. If you're his dad, come out and say that b/c that's pretty much the case--no spin job needed. I can respect the truth. I don't like this BS his dad put out about "personal problems" and wanting Arthur closer to home to somehow soften the blow in the media or whatever.

Sounds like Arthur and Bryce are quite a bit alike to me.

[CoeburnCane]

Sounds like Arthur and Bryce are quite a bit alike to me.

Both Kansas boys who were 5* prospects who couldn't cut it in an ACC/SEC level football program. Definitely alike in those ways.

That's about as far as it goes. I know people personally who have met both guys, and by far, the consensus is that Arthur was the more reserved/humble one. Bryce wanted stardom, he wanted fame, he wanted the spotlight on him. Arthur was blue collar and worked hard, Bryce felt he was more entitled due to his talent. I'm not saying these things about Bryce for slight b/c he was a Vol, and I'm not saying good things about Arthur b/c he was a Cane (even though that's the assumption being made). Bryce didn't have a good reputation as far as how he carried himself even when he was a Miami verbal commit. People I know often remarked how he was a lot different personality-wise than Arthur, how he was more attention driven and arrogant.

You know, it's not so far fetched that two talented brothers from an area not known for producing D1 players would be a bit different from one another. See TJ and JJ for examples of that. TJ graduated from UVA early and competed for a Heisman, JJ went on academic probation and was just about kicked off of Notre Dame's team. Both went on to varying degrees of success in the NFL. Same deal here--and if you paid attention to how TJ carried himself versus JJ, you could have figured that TJ was the more mature/adjusted one between the two.

[Biggin]

to be honest, i never once heard anyone call BB the words you used to describe him.

everyone at UT loved the kid, everything ive read from people around the UT program came to the conclusion that he was not a terribe primadonna.

the only problems i ever heard were about his handler. people hated that he had a handler, but i never heard anyone talk about BB in a bad light

[CoeburnCane]

everyone at UT loved the kid, everything ive read from people around the UT program came to the conclusion that he was not a terribe primadonna.

Underlined/italicized are your key qualifiers there. Of course no one "at UT" or "around the UT program" are going to call him a primadona. They're not going to reveal any character flaws b/c he's a Vol. It's the same reason why those people who I know that met him in person said that even though he was all they told me, that they hoped he grew out of that stuff before making it to Miami because they wanted his talent at the RB position. You know just as well as I do--if a talented dude's on your team, and he's an icehole, you'll overlook it as long as you can because he's on your team.

And you're naiive if you think that Bryce's recruiting circus and subsequent grand-standing about not returning to the UT team this spring aren't more than just a work of Brian Butler. It has a lot to do with Arthur Sr. and Bryce himself, you can be rest assured.

[1inStripes]

Underlined/italicized are your key qualifiers there. Of course no one "at UT" or "around the UT program" are going to call him a primadona. They're not going to reveal any character flaws b/c he's a Vol. It's the same reason why those people who I know that met him in person said that even though he was all they told me, that they hoped he grew out of that stuff before making it to Miami because they wanted his talent at the RB position. You know just as well as I do--if a talented dude's on your team, and he's an icehole, you'll overlook it as long as you can because he's on your team.

And you're naiive if you think that Bryce's recruiting circus and subsequent grand-standing about not returning to the UT team this spring aren't more than just a work of Brian Butler. It has a lot to do with Arthur Sr. and Bryce himself, you can be rest assured.

People who played for UT have been called out before for being a donkey, why wouldn't they do it with Bryce?

[Biggin]

Underlined/italicized are your key qualifiers there. Of course no one "at UT" or "around the UT program" are going to call him a primadona. They're not going to reveal any character flaws b/c he's a Vol. It's the same reason why those people who I know that met him in person said that even though he was all they told me, that they hoped he grew out of that stuff before making it to Miami because they wanted his talent at the RB position. You know just as well as I do--if a talented dude's on your team, and he's an icehole, you'll overlook it as long as you can because he's on your team.

And you're naiive if you think that Bryce's recruiting circus and subsequent grand-standing about not returning to the UT team this spring aren't more than just a work of Brian Butler. It has a lot to do with Arthur Sr. and Bryce himself, you can be rest assured.

I have no doubt that his dad was involved in getting him to possibly leave UT for KSU, I was referring to the negatives surrounding his recruitment, and all that centered around Butler.

And its not fair to just say that the UT fans would lie and cover up about BB. The people I've heard from, who were around the UT program and have no reason to lie, told me that the media gave BB a bad rap because of Butler, and his attitude was never anything but positive at UT. That he was a great teammate and a hard worker. I never heard one thing about him complaining about PT or a starting spot.

And these people are honest, they've let me know about Gerald Jones, Brandon Warren, even Ambles. If a UT player is a primadonna drama king, they would have not been scared or ashamed to say it.